Why I switched backup software from Ahsay to Asigra

Posted on 07. Jul, 2010 by in Blog

I’ve recently switched backup vendors from Ahsay to Asigra. Go! Elephant started using Ahsay in 2006 just as version 5.0 was released. I used both the OBM and lightweight ACB versions and, for the most part, they worked pretty good. Over the last few years, though, my issues with Ahsay mounted and I needed to switch to a more reliable software product. After a 2 month demo process, I found that Asigra fit the bill. Here are some my major concerns that lead me to switch.

Corrupt Indexes

Corrupt file indexes were my biggest problem. Ahsay uses a proprietary folder structure to store the backed up files both on the server and on the local machine (if doing a local backup as well). The index itself is a flat-file database and is used to keep track of these directories. On occasion, for no discernable reason, the local index will corrupt itself and prevent the local backup job from running. This causes the backup job to report a total failure, even though the remote backup job completes just fine. The only fix is to manually delete the index files on the client’s server and force Ahsay OBM to rebuild it.

I’ve experienced corrupt indexes in all versions of the 5.0 series including the latest 5.5.7.0. Not only does this eat up my time, but frustrates my clients.

Memory consumption

Ahsay OBM uses multiple Windows services to function. There is the core backup service, the auto-update service (more on this below), and the Continuous Data Protection (CDP) service. The core backup service is reasonable; it only consumes memory and processor while a backup is running and even then RAM usage maxes out around 200 megabytes.

The real culprit is the CDP service. On my personal workstations, the CDP service uses over 300 megabytes from the moment the Windows starts, and I’m not even using CDP! There is no way to turn the CDP service off short of manually turning it off in the Windows Service Manager. It’s absolutely unacceptable to consume close to 50% of a machine’s resources on a service that isn’t even being used.

Software updates and patches

As mentioned above, the Auto Update service runs continually. The only problem is that it doesn’t automatically update Ahsay OBM. Well, sometimes it does. When it feels like it. According to the documentation, update checks are to take place before every backup job. Sometimes the update downloads immediately. Other times an update doesn’t occur for 3 or 4 weeks, even though Ahsay OBM is checking for updates daily.

New features are slow to come out

Ahsay has a great roadmap of where they are taking their backup software. Unfortunately, the important features and bug fixes are usually glossed over in favor of superficial updates. The CDP memory issues and auto-update problems are brought up over and over again on the Ahsay forums, but are still unresolved as of today.

Encryption key management

Encryption key management isn’t a deal breaker, but Asigra’s implementation is much better. In both cases, if the encryption key is forgotten, the backed up files are useless. Asigra offers the ability to store the encryption key on the Go! Elephant backup server, encrypted of course. In the event of a system failure, I can provide the encrypted encryption key to the client and they can use it to restore their files. The process is still secure because I never have knowledge of the plaintext encryption key at anytime. With Ahsay, if you lose your encryption key, it’s gone forever, along with the ability to unlock your backed up files.

If you are interested in either the Asigra or Ahsay backup products drop me an email. I would be more than happy to discuss the pros and cons of either system.

  • KevinJy16

    Did you trial Robobak during the process of looking for another backup products? Your thoughts?

  • http://twitter.com/patrickg777 PDG

    Thanks for the review. I am using a branded version of ahsay backup on a company server and it is seems to be crippling the network performance.

  • Sailothegreat

    I am interested on how you provide the encrypted key to the clients and let them to restore. Do you mean, if you apply the encrypted key to the backup set, the data can be restored with it? If yes, although you will not, you CAN restore your client's data anytime.

    Have I misunderstood something here?

  • http://www.filecabinetkey.net/file-cabinets-office-max File Cabinets Office

    Bravo, Bros! keep going like this, more good info again.

  • Satanslittlehelper

    Oolio online seems to be the ultimate online back up solution on the market IMO. :)

  • Ross

    Do you now find a noticeable performance difference between Ashay and Asigra on your client machines?

  • JimR2004

    I used backupprotect.net and so far so good. 

  • http://www.wholesalebackup.com MSP Online Backup

    Wow – we also have former Ahsay customers that have switched to WholesaleBackup to power their online backup businesses, but this list is an eye-opener!  Prior to developing WholesaleBackup, we had also tested Novastor and Ahsay and Asigra, but when you’ve used a product for some time, you gain insights like you’re sharing above that we just didn’t know about. Thanks.

  • Devilhog252

    So I’m looking at asigra as an option for cloud back up what pros and cons have you come across thus far?

  • Jaak Ennuste

    Would You please tell about the impact to the costs? May be an hypotetical customer example. 

  • Rickkee

    Doesn’t Asigra charge by the gigabye?  I have clients, some with 500 gb backed up.  I don’t believe I want to share my success with Asigra, when all they provide me with is a licence.  Why should I share the profits with them, that I work so hard to acquire?  They have no “cost of sale”  , no end user support, why pay them for every byte you backup for a client to your servers.  I just don’t get it. Sounds like a cash cow for them, while I pay and pay and pay more and more and more as my clients data grow.